tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956756870207703825.post2136250159196238580..comments2024-03-27T17:09:03.067-04:00Comments on The Running Laminator: Monday Night Adventures – A Runner’s DichotomyThe Laminatorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17171521739644023071noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956756870207703825.post-42939327064706565772009-02-22T10:31:00.000-05:002009-02-22T10:31:00.000-05:00that's why we have socials and drinking events--so...that's why we have socials and drinking events--so fast runners can get to know slow runners. Pace is a whole different story at a bar ;)runner26https://www.blogger.com/profile/13370012240058974013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956756870207703825.post-50079910730853746602009-02-21T20:37:00.000-05:002009-02-21T20:37:00.000-05:00Lam, I hope I didn't scare you re: Prospect Park! ...Lam, I hope I didn't scare you re: Prospect Park! I promise it's not that bad . . . in fact it is far less hilly than Central Park; so if you're okay there, you'll totally be fine in Prospect Park. Ha, I think I probably just wasn't used to running the hills at anything faster than a sloooow long-run pace and thus, it hit me pretty hard. Plus, I don't think you guys will have to deal much (if at all) with the hillier inner roads; just the main loop. So you just have one big-ish hill to deal with (albeit three times). No worries--you're going to do great tomorrow!! :)Irish Creamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17548744329403082452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956756870207703825.post-84876069805186600402009-02-21T13:24:00.000-05:002009-02-21T13:24:00.000-05:00I often end up running alone, even on my club grou...I often end up running alone, even on my club group runs. I'm not usually fast enough to stay with the 'fast' runners but I'm often ahead of the slow pack. So I end up running by myself in the middle. It will change as the summer gets closer and I start training and picking up the pace.DebbieJRThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04440484661217020352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956756870207703825.post-63512354651351568082009-02-19T23:26:00.000-05:002009-02-19T23:26:00.000-05:00I haven't gone for a run with someone in a long ti...I haven't gone for a run with someone in a long time and I miss that connection every once in a while. Nice to know I'm not the only person with the same sentiments!Run For Lifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08070790890115638664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956756870207703825.post-23940092778599447702009-02-19T00:16:00.000-05:002009-02-19T00:16:00.000-05:00i totally know what you mean lam... its hard to fi...i totally know what you mean lam... its hard to find someone at your same pace and it does create a lot of alone running. what is nice is that i have a great group and we all understand we have our own paces, so we can do our own thing, but it is nice to have someone to run with at your normal pace. its hard to run too slow! luckily my husband is really close to my same pace, so when we do run together we get to do a lot of it side by side which i love.Aronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17418163097675963683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956756870207703825.post-40083134850206539772009-02-18T22:18:00.000-05:002009-02-18T22:18:00.000-05:00Thanks for this post. I have only occasionally run...Thanks for this post. I have only occasionally run with others. I am not by any means a fast runner, but I know the challenges of finding a running buddy that matches your pace. I am looking for running buddies myself, so hopefully I find as cool a bunch as you have!I Run for Funhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10557777279127579648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956756870207703825.post-85999849080213410952009-02-18T19:27:00.000-05:002009-02-18T19:27:00.000-05:00Wow - thanks you all. Such great comments and sto...Wow - thanks you all. Such great comments and stories! It's so cool that we all share such similar experiences. Yes, we're not all speedsters and no matter what our pace is, there's always going to be trouble finding people who run exactly at our pace and we have to make adjustments to slow down/speed up if we want to run with others.<BR/><BR/>I think the consensus would be that group time should mix in with alone time. Too extreme on one or the other end would be counterproductive.<BR/><BR/>Others want to chime in?The Laminatorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17171521739644023071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956756870207703825.post-27411020282976652392009-02-18T17:48:00.000-05:002009-02-18T17:48:00.000-05:00Ahh, running bromances are the best!I'm almost alw...Ahh, running bromances are the best!<BR/><BR/>I'm almost always a solo runner, but I'd like to find more people to run with for all the reasons you mentioned.X-Country2https://www.blogger.com/profile/01543524827265377886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956756870207703825.post-19292241140702368622009-02-18T16:56:00.000-05:002009-02-18T16:56:00.000-05:00While I'm not the ultimate speedster, I like to th...While I'm not the ultimate speedster, I like to think that I can hold my own, and I've run across difficulties trying to find running buddies. (When I was actively seeking one, that is...I don't really try anymore!) I once ran with some new people, and at the end, one person said something to the effect of "I thought we were taking it easy today!" I guess we weren't as close in pace as I thought, since I was definitely taking it easy. I guess that's the perk of giant running clubs...more likely to find someone your pace!Susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09753977885503823287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956756870207703825.post-54843522943233218782009-02-18T15:57:00.000-05:002009-02-18T15:57:00.000-05:00I nearly always run on my own thanks to my "awesom...I nearly always run on my own thanks to my "awesome" travel schedule. It is lonely some days. But when I have run with others I'm always concerned I'm slowing them down. When I run with my slower friends I don't mind taking it easy to help them get through the run. But I can only do that every so often.Jamiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06757049962850570389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956756870207703825.post-66166851381621154702009-02-18T15:04:00.000-05:002009-02-18T15:04:00.000-05:00I have the same comment as above - my concern is t...I have the same comment as above - my concern is that I'm too slow to run with others. Sure, they can slow down to keep pace with me but I want them to have a good run as well. And as much as I love conversational runs, those just slow me down even more! That's why I love the pace groups at the Nike training runs... there are so many runners that it is really easy to find peeps that you are speed-compatible with :)audgepodgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07589920897176813735noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956756870207703825.post-61511070989264646482009-02-18T13:07:00.000-05:002009-02-18T13:07:00.000-05:00I'm actually really glad you posted this, Lam . . ...I'm actually really glad you posted this, Lam . . . it's really interesting to get to see a fast runner's POV on this stuff. Ha, I'm usually on the slow side of the equation, constantly worrying about slowing other people down and getting all jealous of faster runners . . . so thank you for showing me that it can be tough on the fast runners too! :)Irish Creamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17548744329403082452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956756870207703825.post-27242919076439347802009-02-18T10:26:00.000-05:002009-02-18T10:26:00.000-05:00Hi I am in no way your level of running at all. B...Hi I am in no way your level of running at all. But, if I want to try to run faster than I have to run alone otherwise I am held back by the fastest runner in the group i am with and that is still usually slower than I'd like to run.<BR/><BR/>So, while i love running with people, i think I need to be on my own when i need faster runs!!!<BR/><BR/>Great job dude!!!Michellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13012277904032798697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956756870207703825.post-55966339204738991712009-02-18T09:07:00.000-05:002009-02-18T09:07:00.000-05:00I can completely relate. I started out running wit...I can completely relate. I started out running with a mom's running group, but pretty soon myself and 3 other moms would lead the pack and never get a chance to talk to the other runners. <BR/>I started training for a marathon with 2 of the faster moms, but our motivation is not the same, and I ended up getting faster and stronger, which makes it hard to do the long runs together - I have to wait for them on top of a large hill, or take off for the last 5 miles in order to get my average pace where it should be. But I know marathon training will end shortly and then I'll just go for some easy fun runs and try ot catch up with everyone...<BR/>Ana-Maria<BR/>P.S. I am actually not that speedy...just speedy compared to my peer running groupRunning and livinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00057835870342142162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956756870207703825.post-70799501694141457402009-02-18T08:58:00.000-05:002009-02-18T08:58:00.000-05:00I agree with you to a certain extent -- It can be ...I agree with you to a certain extent -- It can be tough not being able to go for a lot of the group runs, etc., but the thrill of being able to run "fast" completely outweighs all that, at least for me. I also feel very fortunate that people near our pace have a little extra room to manuever in the races. Whenever we double back (like in the Bronx), I'm always reminded how lucky I am not to be stuck in that huge mass of people.<BR/><BR/>As a side note: I don't consider myself a "fast runner." I see guys putting up sub-4 minute miles or 2:15 marathons and my efforts suddenly look ridiculous. I'd give anything to be up there competeing with those times, but I'm not and never will be, so I try to make peace with just running for myself at a pace that's right for me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956756870207703825.post-51635833302408508412009-02-18T08:29:00.000-05:002009-02-18T08:29:00.000-05:00Actually, nyflygirl...again, you know I'm not a sp...Actually, nyflygirl...again, you know I'm not a speed snob so don't take this the wrong way...but it actually hurts my knees when I force myself to run more than 1:00-1:30 min/mi slower than my usual training pace...especially after 6 miles. It's not as benign as you think.<BR/><BR/>But, yes, I agree...I know it is more frustrating to run slower than average than faster than average. (But what are you talking about...after the year you had last year...so close to a B.Q., you should not think of yourself as slow. I'm sure there's lot of peeps who would love to run at your speed).The Laminatorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17171521739644023071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956756870207703825.post-32617404963332576972009-02-18T08:19:00.000-05:002009-02-18T08:19:00.000-05:00I say it's the lesser of 2 evils...I mean, at leas...I say it's the lesser of 2 evils...I mean, at least you have the option and ability to slow down. Me? I can't necessarily speed up-unless it was supposed to be a planned tempo run (which is not usually the case), or if I want to sacrifice my own training, which I don't. Which is why I have to run alone a lot.nyflygirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10438782047120715996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956756870207703825.post-87873375863533944992009-02-18T01:08:00.000-05:002009-02-18T01:08:00.000-05:00I don't know about the fast lane but I will say th...I don't know about the fast lane but I will say that I usually run alone. Not really by choice but more because of my schedule and newness to the sport. I envy that you have a running team. I had great experiences like you wrote about above, only with a cycling team (but they would sooner go to work than go for a run with me). I always think I'll be able to find some conversation on a run in the park. It almost never happens. I guess my fear of being pepper sprayed it greater than my need for conversation.<BR/>Still, I can relate to your postmatpedwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11697666109625969130noreply@blogger.com