tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956756870207703825.post411196886257738081..comments2024-03-27T17:09:03.067-04:00Comments on The Running Laminator: An Exercise In FutulityIn Review of My 20 Mile Long RunThe Laminatorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17171521739644023071noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956756870207703825.post-22371551197194627782008-06-03T23:23:00.000-04:002008-06-03T23:23:00.000-04:00Thanks everyone for your kind words. But just t...Thanks everyone for your kind words. But just to be clear...Yes, I'm fully recovered from the 20-miler, and no, I did not mean for my post to be a pity party...just an opportunity to educate others on what not to do on long runs.The Laminatorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17171521739644023071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956756870207703825.post-39413676370237049132008-06-03T17:40:00.000-04:002008-06-03T17:40:00.000-04:00I, too, am a survivor of the crappy 20 miler. Hang...I, too, am a survivor of the crappy 20 miler. Hang in there, my friend - the next one will be better.Midwesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09037402608009195098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956756870207703825.post-85985905962086208932008-06-03T15:41:00.000-04:002008-06-03T15:41:00.000-04:00all joking aside-seriously, if you had to have a b...all joking aside-seriously, if you had to have a bad run, a learning experience run-at least you got it over with now and not on race day...right? :)nyflygirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10438782047120715996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956756870207703825.post-66346062549233712812008-06-03T15:39:00.000-04:002008-06-03T15:39:00.000-04:00Just please do not repeat those mistakes on Sunday...Just please do not repeat those mistakes on Sunday.<BR/><BR/>thanks in advance <BR/><BR/>:-Pnyflygirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10438782047120715996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956756870207703825.post-65903135605070976762008-06-03T14:21:00.000-04:002008-06-03T14:21:00.000-04:00Wow. We didn't run together this weekend, but dam...Wow. We didn't run together this weekend, but damn did we make a lot of the same mistakes. I went over three bridges (in that God-awful heat) including the Williamsburg Bridge. I had a hydration plan, but it was foiled with a few unexpected park closures along the route.sRodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02970952645043027136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956756870207703825.post-48848171973283799412008-06-03T13:50:00.000-04:002008-06-03T13:50:00.000-04:00Oh Lam, you big crybaby. How about running 20 mil...Oh Lam, you big crybaby. How about running 20 miles with a broken pelvis? <BR/><BR/>(Again, thought I would send you a different message than all the sympathetic ones you've already received)<BR/><BR/>You are the most educated runner I know, especially when it comes to the human body, so if it's any consolation...a horrible long run is probably like an average person's okay long run. Thanks for your tips though. I appreciate all the time you put into your posts. Now, how bout those hip/butt stretches you promised?Frayed Laceshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08055135998797939473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956756870207703825.post-15973940687461924952008-06-03T10:37:00.000-04:002008-06-03T10:37:00.000-04:00At least you ran it and finished...maybe it wasn't...At least you ran it and finished...maybe it wasn't an exercise in speed, but an exercise in persistence.MissAllycathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08592169104612466313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956756870207703825.post-4815536181940561802008-06-03T00:22:00.000-04:002008-06-03T00:22:00.000-04:00Like others have said, I'm just impressed that you...Like others have said, I'm just impressed that you finished the whole 20 miles! I've definitely had my share of runs that were doomed before I hit the pavement, and usually that resulted in me cutting the distance. Good for you in getting the miles in.<BR/><BR/>BTW - I ran the 2nd half of the SF marathon last year. You're gonna love it!audgepodgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07589920897176813735noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956756870207703825.post-55881185953687807842008-06-02T23:33:00.000-04:002008-06-02T23:33:00.000-04:00Thanks for sharing! I didn't do all those things,...Thanks for sharing! I didn't do all those things, but had a similar awful experience on a 12 miler this weekend. Vowed never to break the cardinal rules of running again. <BR/><BR/>Good news is that if you had forgotten any of the rules, you now know them and won't be tempted to do it on race day....right?<BR/><BR/>Feel better and take care, <BR/><BR/>AmyAmy@RunnersLoungehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10903223842488918554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956756870207703825.post-57946086223207066492008-06-02T17:56:00.000-04:002008-06-02T17:56:00.000-04:00It's sad to say, but I think I've done every singl...It's sad to say, but I think I've done every single one of those things! (Especially #1...)<BR/><BR/>On the bright side, at this point in your training, it's all about building a solid endurance base, so, hey, more time on your feet can only help that, right? <BR/><BR/>No worries, Lam, you'll be rocking the 20(+) milers soon enough.nwgdchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15000663254776350045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956756870207703825.post-68875526766021068942008-06-02T17:04:00.000-04:002008-06-02T17:04:00.000-04:00All hail the hungover LSD ... for it shall be all ...All hail the hungover LSD ... for it shall be all the punishment you need. <BR/><BR/>Good thing this was practice, right?B. Kramerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17005060826015780427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956756870207703825.post-72988801988191742342008-06-02T16:34:00.000-04:002008-06-02T16:34:00.000-04:00These are great reflections/lessons to pass on. Th...These are great reflections/lessons to pass on. Thanks for sharing them!<BR/>You'll get your revenge in a next month!Meghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07819934745994804681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956756870207703825.post-68879912233789628732008-06-02T16:19:00.000-04:002008-06-02T16:19:00.000-04:00That sounds A LOT like my first 20 -miler. I woul...That sounds A LOT like my first 20 -miler. I would like to say that we learn from our mistakes - but you know that's not true. <BR/><BR/>Thanks for sharing.P.O.M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16410533843419723414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956756870207703825.post-48240157755349016832008-06-02T15:31:00.000-04:002008-06-02T15:31:00.000-04:00Here, here...I've done this before. In my case, a...Here, here...I've done this before. In my case, after an extremely successful marathon - for me - I started taking the 18+ run for granted and they started wiping my behind. I had to step back and refocus on the fact that this distnace is demanding no matter how fast or how many marathons I had run. Good reminder!Nitmoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17108597328135023198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956756870207703825.post-66407000444349775772008-06-02T15:17:00.000-04:002008-06-02T15:17:00.000-04:00You know you will have a great race in SF - this i...You know you will have a great race in SF - this is not an indicator at all! <BR/><BR/>I like your lessons though - <BR/>That two drink minimum will get you every time :)!Debbiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17918958310368378112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956756870207703825.post-84842696614143848232008-06-02T15:08:00.000-04:002008-06-02T15:08:00.000-04:00If you run a route where you have access to clean ...If you run a route where you have access to clean water you should check out a new hydration tool called <B>AquaJoe</B>. There is a video of it on www.aquajoe.com.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956756870207703825.post-37432255430450460372008-06-02T10:51:00.000-04:002008-06-02T10:51:00.000-04:00Alcohol is carbs, and that's actually how I fuel m...Alcohol is carbs, and that's actually how I fuel most of my long runs. Therefore, that doesn't count as an excuse :)<BR/><BR/>Isn't SF in August? I've never followed a real training plan so I have no idea but isn't it early for your long run?Laurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17100746061554733157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956756870207703825.post-54977500395146908062008-06-02T07:45:00.000-04:002008-06-02T07:45:00.000-04:00While I'm sorry that you had to endure that, part ...While I'm sorry that you had to endure that, part of me is very glad that you posted this. Very timely, as I am embarking on my very first week of training for my very first marathon starting today.<BR/><BR/>I'd say San Fran is going to be great for you. This bad run certainly had to add an element of mental toughness. I don't think it's the good runs that make us stronger runners, it's the not-so-good ones.Zoomyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08458929767561710888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956756870207703825.post-44822582808871262412008-06-02T07:44:00.000-04:002008-06-02T07:44:00.000-04:00Hi LamYou can't let one poorly executed run be the...Hi Lam<BR/><BR/>You can't let one poorly executed run be the death (haha) of your marathon race plans. You pretty much made every mistake in the book for a long run and I can tell you quite honestly I have "been there done that". But here is the thing... you completed the run. And that is what runners do. We don't give up when we feel like crap and know we are running like crap. Why?? Because we are runners and we just don't like to fail at anything. So, chalk it up to experience and just living a life and not being a professional runner who's running is so much more than a hobby.Bill Carterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17303668807091595615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956756870207703825.post-50816233533087412982008-06-02T06:33:00.000-04:002008-06-02T06:33:00.000-04:00Sorry the long run bit. I agree with RunForLife, ...Sorry the long run bit. I agree with RunForLife, though. This is not an indicator for the San Fran marathon.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for sharing though. I always learn something new about running from your blog.Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16239398378627471218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956756870207703825.post-1227548966187868922008-06-02T01:57:00.000-04:002008-06-02T01:57:00.000-04:00That sounds brutal. If it's any consolation I don...That sounds brutal. If it's any consolation I don't think this long run is indicative of what you'll do in San Fran.Run For Lifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08070790890115638664noreply@blogger.com